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TDG podcast feature: Employee co-creation for business growth

The Design Gym’s managing partner, Andy Hagerman, was recently featured on the Work for Humans podcast with Dart Lindsley!

This is the first time Andy has shared The Design Gym’s 13-year evolution in depth—shifting from corporate innovation to redesigning workplace culture, leadership behaviors, and collaboration norms. This conversation provides a detailed view of how we approach these challenges.

“I think in moments of complexity and change and ambiguity – which we’re all squarely in the thick of right now – getting closer to your people is the best path forward…”

“When People teams learn how to create really tight, rigorous design briefs or project briefs and invite employees from all levels into solving that with them, that’s where the untapped opportunity is both for business and employee purpose.” 


In this episode, Dart and Andy explore:

  • Why grocery shopping with employees might just transform your HR strategy
  • How leadership, employee engagement, and team resilience are an untapped lever for growth, and why it’s important in 2025
  • A behind-the-scenes look at a project with a major retailer—covering specific tactics and tools for listening, trust-building, and co-creation



Andy Hagerman
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Andy Hagerman is one of the co-founders and partners at The Design Gym, a strategy and innovation consultancy helping leaders to grow their business by fully unlocking the power of their most important advantage: their people. We work at the intersection of business strategy, experience design, and change management to engage the people that matter most to your work: your customers, your leaders, and your employees. See something that resonates with a project or challenge you're working on? Shoot him a note at [email protected].

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